in response to superdave... At first I kind of agreed with some of what you said, then I kept reading. I agree that with 4 kids it is hard and you should not have kids if you cannot afford them, at least I should say I USE TO agree with that. Times are alot different right now, it is not the good old Democratic Days when Clinton was in office and there was a job around every corner. I am in Michigan and have never ever had money problems, until this year. We ran a sucessful roofing business for over 10 years, we were not rich, but we could pay our bills. This year is a different story. Thank God, work is starting to pick up, for now at least, but it could stop at any moment. I have a child who is terminally ill and has medical bills and extremely expensive medicines. I would NEVER talk to someone the way you are to mothersloveof4. She is obviously on here because, like all of us, she needs some help and needs to vent some. Do you honestly think she is on here just because she has nothing else to do? You sound like a very bitter person and that you are mad because someone might help her and not you. Maybe you need to rethink your attitude and realize that no one will help you with an attitude like that.